[Round one] Asura VS Carnage

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[Round one] Asura VS Carnage

Post  Soul on Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:08 am



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Match three of round one is The kesshin Asura versus the symbiote carnage. Both of these are psychotic crazed men seeking nothing but death and destruction.

Start by making a confidential vote (one) then post with evidence, links/videos, and reasons why you think that person will win. This is not the finale vote nor does it decide the winner. This is just a prevote to start the battle off!! Vote based on, strength, will to fight, is the character a evil enough villain, etc. Not just on who would win a fight. Remember to do your research and battle away!
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Re: [Round one] Asura VS Carnage

Post  chicklet on Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:24 am

Alright Im gonna start this thing off. carnage would be a good opponent if he did not have to fight asura. for one thing asura has what is refered to as black blood which allows him to heal quickly and regenerate lost limbs, with this type of blood he can also deflect melee attacks which is pretty much all carnage can do so that nullifies his attacks there.

The second thing is that asura does get scared but because he is mad he takes that fear and turns it into his strength and we all know that carnage is a scary mother f***er so that gives asura a crap load of power, and i know in the anime he becomes so mad he actually kills himself but i think in a one on one fight he has enough sanity to not kill himself and besides this is not the anime.

The next thing is we both have tendril like objects that can be used as weapons, carnage uses webs that can cause physical damage and can also ensnare the enemy but the thing is asura has his skin scarves which are obviously made up of his skin making him have complete control over them. These scarves can also grab objects and even carnage at long distances but also note that since it is skin the black blood still flows through them making them imperviouse to his attacks as well.

The last thing about asura that beats carnage is that carnage dosn't have a wide range of attacks his web things and a lot of scratching plus he needs a host asura dose not need any body to rely on plus he has a ton of attacks that can actually do some damage.

All asura has to do is grab carnage with his skin scarves which he cant escape because he cant cut them or hurt them because of the blood then he can throw up his soul shield which will further protect him from carnage's onslaught then regurgitate his weapon vjhara and do his blast right at carnage and potentially disintigrate his inorganic body. And besides if you could blow a whole in deaths face would you be afraid of carnage, because when you get down to it carnage is nothing but a paranoid skitzophrinic so to him asura can just be an illusion.
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Re: [Round one] Asura VS Carnage

Post  Dankaiba on Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:19 pm

Carnage, the boss of the symbiotes, son of Venom and the ultimate rager. All his emotions have become pure rage, he has no regret, no sadness and he never gives up, unless he decides to. His endless rage also is what gives him power. He never tires and never thinks twice. Asura on the other hand has many feelings, he can be scared and be worried, and nothing is more scary then carnage and his tenticals covering the ground with a red fluid covering the ground coming at you at full speed.

Carnage can morph, not into animals, but shapes and holes so he can dodge almost any type of blast and can regenerate quickly. He is insane to the point where any noise spooks him and in rages him even more, Asura on the other hand is smart and even though he has black blood can still loose limbs, he also has one problem, even though Asura can grab Carnage and hurt him, Carnage can make weapons out of his own body and use his tenticals at all distances.

Carnage also is very strong, he can pick up up to 50 tons, also his speed is very great, being able to cut Asura's skin scarves and Asura, although with the black blood, can't block all of Carnage's punches and web blasts and teticals abilities, the battle would end with Carnage enraged as ever and a weakened Asura, using both their strengths untill Asura finally gives up, knowing that he has no chance, kills him self or when he has his back turned, carnage stabs him repeatedly and eats the head right off his shoulders.
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Re: [Round one] Asura VS Carnage

Post  chicklet on Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:21 pm

The thing with carnage he is very strong and fast but when it comes down to it he isnt smart with combat he dosnt think tactics, how am i gonna kill this person, instead he just charges in and starts attacking which can be a good thing but if he tries and do that with asura hes just gonna dodge and then move back and shoot a large blast twards carnage. Asura is smart he thinks before he moves he would know what to do when carnage comes at him.

And another thing asura only has to fight one person, carnage on the other hand has to fight multiple enemies. One of asuras abilities are that he can concentrate the madness wavelength in certain areas that form "clowns" pure forms of madness. The clowns have the ability to form blade like strucktures from there bodies which are very powerfull and them themselves are very strong, not a very tough obstacle for carnage but having to fight off three or four enemies at a time but then he still has to fight asura which was a tough challenge to start with.

And lets not forget that asura still has his soul resonence which since he can concentrate it he could form thes areas around carnage where he can force carnage into a trap then taking him off guard with the clowns then finish him off.
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Re: [Round one] Asura VS Carnage

Post  WolfheadMGJ on Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:33 pm

Alright, i'm going to jump in on this to point a few things out.

First, Asura never kills himself, he just pretty much implodes when Maka isn't afriad of him, and that makes no sense to him, completely confuses him, and scares the hell out of him because he doesn't understand.

Second, because of this, Carnage would win in a fight, as he can dodge attacks better than Asura due to a "spider-sense" and wouldn't take damage long enough to display no fear whatsoever to Asura. Even if you think Asuar way more powerful attacks and can survive a lot more, it comes to the fact that Maka only had to tell Asura that she wasn't afraid of him in order to win her fight with him. Let's see Spider-Man do that with Carnage (no offense Spidey, much love)

Third, instincts can go a long ways, even without any strategic thought process or protessional technical training. Technical well thought fighting can be hard pressed to best a highly powerful instinctual fighter at times. So in my opinion that doesn't make much of difference either way.

Fourth, villain wise, Carnage wins. Sure Asura is powerful and spreads madness into the world, but it isn't like does it entirely on purpose. It just radiants out of him. Plus, when a highly powerful Soul Eater technique used to destroy evil is used on Asura, it cuts into him from the left shoulder to his hip, but it doesn't destroy and he responds with simply breaking the technique, pulling it out of him, and basically saying "I'm not evil." So he is the Antagonist from where he comes from, but Carnage's villiany comes from much more evil source. One may argue that he kills out of instinct, but if this where so, he would do this only to fed or defend himself/territory. However, Carnage does not eat anyone he kills; he just kills them because its brings him pleasure and he enjoys the act of killing them. And I'm sure he does more than that. Also, the fight between Asura and the Soul Academy (whatever its called) was initiated by the Academy, not Asura, simply because they wanted to stop the madness that passively spreads from him.

Fifth, when the heck did he ever spawn clowns? There was one episode that had mechanical clowns in it, that fought Death the Kid when he tried to take a key shaped magical item, but they only attacked to protect the key, and had absolutely nothing to do with Asura.

I'll stop there for now.
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Re: [Round one] Asura VS Carnage

Post  chicklet on Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:42 pm

Alright i understand where you are coming from matt but the thing is for one the clowns were spawned in the manga not the anime.
Just go to this link scroll down and look for abilities one of those abilities is the clowns.

http://souleater.wikia.com/wiki/Asura

I know asura isnt as evil as carnage but if you think about it carnage isnt evil he is bad, you cant look past the fact that carnage is the symbiote not the man the man is phycotic thats why he was locked up for being bad then the symbiote attached to him and he uses it as a weapon so the alien symbiote is nothing more than a tool. Asura is the embodiment of madness and madness leads to evil. he is the antagonist but he is evil.

And just because asura isnt as fast as carnage he still cant touch asura because of the black blood, unless carnage has some super secret ultimate f**k you up cannon he wouldnt be able to draw any blood from asura and even if he could he can control the blood so that it could be used as a weapon.

Back to the tactics issue tactics play a major role in combat why do you think it wins wars cause it works military strategy is implimented to this day because it works. not going around scratching people. If someone throws a punch at your face and you know how to deflect it your going to deflect it not just stand there and take the punch.
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Re: [Round one] Asura VS Carnage

Post  Soul on Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:47 pm

owned ^.^

Im not gonna say much...

As far as tactics gos, asura is smarter, and sure a mad angry raging beast fulled on insticts can be deadly, id rather have my wits in battle.

Also they both are nearly impossible to kill, both can regenerate limbs, both have next to indistructible flesh.

Also Asura is actually evil, thats why he gets surprised when maka isnt afraid of him. Asura is like chaos from imythess, he thinks he is the strongest and best thing in the world, he thinks he is a god. Same as asura.

btw havnt voted yet, still on the fence, just adding my two sense
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Re: [Round one] Asura VS Carnage

Post  BlackJacket on Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:32 pm

So at the moment I am deciding my vote and as of right now Asura has my vote and here is a small list why:

1. In an Evil scale, Asura loses but only to the slightest advantage that Carnage recieves. Asura was once evil and Carnage never was which in that way he wins but they both turn evil and try to kill and cause havoc.

2. Carnage is quick fast strong those are his three main characteristics that were emphasized. Asura is not quick but he doesnt need to be by the way he blocks with multiple limbs made of his own skin. Strength is another thing that brute wise carnage wins but with Asura's abilities he pulls over top Carnage in my opinion because if he sends Carnage into a more mad state than he already wins Carnage willl be so psychotic he will be so random and predictable that Asura will be able to pull it over him.

3. On a small note that wasn't big on my decision but helped over all was the fact that when Chicklet sat down he did research and knew everything on the characters and was able to pull both the strengths and counter the weaknesses for Asura. This (for Chicklet) deserves some credit and not saying Bennet was bad or anything chicklet blew him out by the sole arguements. If either of you feel that I said something wrong please correct me as I only read about the characters from you two.

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Re: [Round one] Asura VS Carnage

Post  Iris on Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:56 pm

Sorry Bennett but asura has got my vote. Zack basically explained my reasons for my decision and all I can say is that asura us more evil and everything. And could win in a fight. Not that carnage wouldn't give a fighting chance but it would be asura who would win.

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Re: [Round one] Asura VS Carnage

Post  Soul on Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:52 am

As of now asura wins, but a revote will be posted if yall feel we need one. If everyone is 100% set in stone then the winner is asura, but if someone can be pursauded to swing their vote, chicklet and bennet better use this weekend to pursuade them!
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Re: [Round one] Asura VS Carnage

Post  Soul on Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:31 am

well the vote was 2-4 and there has been no activity, so with that i am closing the vote with asura as the winner, sorry carnage
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